Aug. 2, 2022

Naomi Raine of Maverick City Music

Naomi Raine is the powerhouse voice best known as one of the core members of Grammy-award-winning group Maverick City Music. But, with her debut solo album, Journey, she’s bringing her voice to center stage and sharing her story.


Growing up in Queens as the daughter of worship leaders, Naomi’s life has never been without music. She sang publicly for the first time at a major gospel concert at just 2 years old.


However, her path into the vibrant music ministry that has impacted the world was not always smooth. An unexpected pregnancy at 18 planted social alienation and deep-held shame. But on this episode of Trevor Talks, Naomi shares how grace has made every bump in the road level.


As we gratefully celebrate 100 episodes of Trevor Talks, take a deep dive with us into the heart and the healing found in the songs on Journey.


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Naomi Raine  0:00  
For me, my life has been about the mission, right? What has the Lord called me to do? I know I have a legacy to uphold, I have, like, this is an inheritance of my parents, were given a promise and a word. And I know I'm fulfilling that. And so when I see all of even with the things that I've done wrong and stupid, and all of that, how God has continually, like ordered my steps, and allowed me to get to this place where I know it has nothing to do with, really with me, you know, I'm really clear on that. I'm just following his leading and he's setting this up. And so now I get to literally live out my dream, and worship Jesus at the same time. That's a nice phrase.

Trevor Tyson  0:44  
Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode of Trevor talks, where we talk to real people about real topics and real stories. Today's guest is one of the forerunners of gospel music and art culture today. She is a Grammy Award winner as well as one of the leading voices behind Maverick city music, which is way too many accolades for me to go through right now for time sake. She is a mother of three wife, real person and has a new record out called journey in which you can stream on all major streaming platforms. And aside from all that, she is our 100th guest on Trevor talks, which is beyond anything I could ever imagine. And if this is your first time joining us, which I'm sure we will have a lot of first time listeners with this guest. I'm excited for you to be here. And I don't really know what else to say to introduce this lady. So we're just gonna dive right in. Please help me welcome Miss Naomi rain. Naomi, thank you for being here.

Naomi Raine  1:43  
Hey, Trevor, thanks for having me. I'm really like excited about this. And you just saying that I'm the 100th episode. I'm like, Oh, we've got to make it count.

Trevor Tyson  1:53  
We have to make it count. And this is awesome. And you're joining us from Fort Worth, where y'all just played what I'm sure was a sold out show last night with Kirk Franklin in Fort Worth. How does it feels to be on this amazing tour with Kirk Franklin of all people? Come on now.

Naomi Raine  2:11  
It is unreal. Like, literally every day. There's a new surprise. We are laughing all the time. We are worshiping very deeply. We are dancing much more than I ever thought we would. And so it is just a great time. We have so much fun every single night.

Trevor Tyson  2:31  
Well, I've heard that this is one of the best shows to see of our generation. One of my best friends was like dude, have you seen map city yet? And I was like, No, I haven't got seen yet. He's like, you know how much I love the 1975 I think is what they're called. And I'm like, yeah, like your favorite band. He said, I just saw map city and Kirk Franklin. And Bridgestone Arena. And when I tell you this was the best show I have ever seen in my life. It was the best show. And I was like, like I was just in Orlando doing a show. And I kept driving by the rain out there. And it said sold out like Kurt Franklin map city. This is a big tour. And it has to be humbling to know like with map city and Nomi rains still being such a fresh name in the music scene, to be able to just escalate this thing as large as it's become it could only be explained that it's a God given miracle of its own. Oh, yeah,

Naomi Raine  3:24  
I think I think there's no other explanation outside of God wanting to breathe on this and, and put our names and the music in the wind, right and having people hear it. I think one of the things one of the advantages that we have is that we're a collective, they're a bunch of different artists. And so you're not just getting one thing, you're getting a bunch of different things. And honestly, I think the other part is that it's just organic, and we're just here to worship and it works. But I'm telling you that Kirk Franklin, it's a show it's a show. And it's so good. I find myself sometimes like just watching it. So I'm grateful to be a part of it.

Trevor Tyson  4:07  
Come on and you just released your debut solo project. How does it feel to have journey out into the world right now? And you know, I would dance but I don't want to embarrass myself today. Like this album did make me dance like I've been listening to it for the past. I guess. It's only been out since Friday. Right? So like it's been a week. That's why I had to ask I'm like this thing just came out on Friday but I feel like I've been listening to it for a week is phenomenal. And my favorite track on there is actually the first one which is journey Overture and I'm like it sets the tone for the record but it also has the voice clips here and there in some lyrics that really stand out to me as like someone who's experienced so much anxiety and depression in my life and God like continues to just teach me how to live and heal from that hearing and don't you forget that Breathe. I'm not afraid to fly. I'm not afraid to try. But sometimes I can't decide which way to turn. No, I'm not afraid to go admit I still need to grow. Sometimes I think I know everything, but I don't. I wake up, I get to work and I could go through the whole song. But it's so relatable like for me personally, so thank you for being so vulnerable and just sharing your thoughts and the things that you process through. But with this song in particular, what was the creative mindset, like, Okay, we're gonna start the record with this song right here in particular.

Naomi Raine  5:33  
So the overture was the last song to be created. And I was you know, we were listening to the songs down just listening, listening, listening. And I was just like, I want to do an overture Now, originally it was going to be musically and overture. So I don't know if you're, like, familiar with musicals, and, and all of that stuff. But like, usually, there's an overture that has little pieces of the main songs in it, and just little snippets, and it's usually musical, not no lyrics. And as we got into the studio, to work on it, it was with my producer, Adele Jackson. And we were just sitting there, and I was like, Yo, what if we just what if I just sing the first line to every song? And he's like, alright, that so he just starts playing that dude. I can't even sing it. But he starts playing that and I went in the studio and just started singing the first lines and it came out the way it came out. But I pulled from this other song because journey other writing this album since 2016, and I had a song called Journey it was the you know, the title track. And it had those those words, I'm not afraid to fly, I'm not afraid to try. Sometimes I think I know everything, but I don't. Those are those words from from journey. So we got to like, meld it together and create this journey overture that, hopefully, I mean, you're talking about it really made me feel good. As an artist. I'm like, Hey, gets it, somebody gets it?

Trevor Tyson  7:07  
Well, it's fascinating because the sound that you're introducing with this record is a lot more soulful and r&b driven than more gospel worship direction that you display with Maverick. And that had to take some like nerve wracking, like processes to get through. Because it's like, everybody knows you from promises and gyro and like you can go through the hits, which is nuts. Because if y'all put out like five or six records since 2018, I'm like, Y'all, I'm busy. A lot. So it had to be nerve wracking to release, but it has to feel good to know that it paid off and is impacting people. No,

Naomi Raine  7:43  
it is I'm not gonna lie. When it wasn't, I wasn't nervous, like Thursday night, before it dropped on Friday, I was really nervous the day that we had to submit the files to upload it, you know, so that it can be released. I was like, oh, no, oh, no, because it is a different sound. And some people, you know, music is all about taste. And I think that somatically and content wise, this is for everybody, you know, and so I didn't want to alienate or, I guess I don't know, I don't know the words that I'm trying to say, I don't want to leave anybody out. You know, and I'm hoping that the sound doesn't do that. But what I'm finding is that the responses like oh, no, this is what we needed. And this is what we're, I'm so grateful for this sound. And it's people that are like, I never listened to this type of music, but I'm thankful for this. You know, I've heard it from a bunch of different people. So yeah, it's, it's working, I'm not gonna cross my fingers. I'm blessed.

Trevor Tyson  8:40  
So you are blessed. And I'll be honest with you, like I say this a lot. My listeners can attest to it. I'm more of a hard rock fan. So when I dove into it, I didn't know really what to expect. But instantly, I was drawn into it. And I'm not lying. Like I'm dead serious, especially when the first single came out. I was like, not ready. And then I saw it was premiered on YouTube. And I was like, I don't know if I'm ready for it. And we'll dive into it later. But even the look and the sound that you've presented in that single alone was enough to get you loose and get you ready for whatever was next to come. So I know it was just she had strategic to launch that song first. And I'm so glad that you did. But it's almost like, like I said earlier Mavericks still a new collective to the world. And it says if like during the pandemic, Maverick city just came out of left field with this unique raw vulnerable, yet organic sound and it's exactly what people needed. It didn't feel like this huge production. It's not like tribal was like, alright, we need to book this warehouse for this this warehouse for this. No, like y'all just had simple studios and acquire just stripped it down and made something happen. So Did y'all have any kind of expectation on what was coming next?

Naomi Raine  9:54  
No, not at all. And that's the thing like what you don't realize is that literally there is not much planning still, to this day, if I'm honest, we've kept true to our roots. There is production. But the choir that you see in those videos is not an actual choir. It's just people we invited and from Atlanta, so it's just like, hey, come sing songs with us. And like, be something and now we, you know, have a choir. But I mean, it really was just like, hey, let's come and worship in a room. And I think it's hard to do that and expect that everything that has happened would happen. And I don't know what's gonna happen next, because I didn't see any of this coming.

Trevor Tyson  10:38  
Yeah. And it's hard to fit the sound into one genre, which is what you've been able to do and break so many ceilings especially, and gospel and CCM music because people, they weren't necessarily ready for math, but it came out of left field and just kind of blew up. And that's how you know God's anointing is on it. Because it's not like there were these massive marketing budgets being put into this thing. It was like, and I heard you say in an interview that you just kind of like got started with map city, or when you were at the Bethel School of Music, doing some sort of class, and you met the guys, and it just kind of happened. So like, one thing that I really want to touch on is your story, like not the story of how did you get connected with Maverick and How's it feel to have green rooms and arena shows that's not what this is about. And if people want to hear about like, Maverick city as a collective, I'm sure there's interviews out there for them. But that's not what this is about. I want to talk about you and your personal journey, your family in the journey to getting to the record called Journey. So with all that being said, Would you be okay with opening up a little bit on your upbringing, your story to become the woman that you are today?

Naomi Raine  11:45  
Yeah, I was born and raised in Queens, New York. And well was really born in Long Island. But anyway, raised in Queens, New York, lived there for a really long time, we just recently moved out to Long Island. And so that's just to say, I'm a New Yorker, through and through, and two parent household older brother. It was the four of us and we were born, like we were raised in church. That was, that was it. I was in rehearsals for probably 80% of my life. And my parents were worship leaders. And we just lived around music around worship around song. And I learned I would say, I learned everything. I really know, from my church experience. It was, it was wonderful. My parents regret that we didn't really go on vacations. And we didn't do that we went to church. And I don't regret it at all. It shaped me it. It allowed me to be where I am today, I learned so much. And we were in a super heavy teaching church. And the music that we listened to most of the music that we sang in our church was Hillsong music. And I want to say it's integrity, music, Ron cannoli, that type of stuff. So I didn't have like a super gospel upbringing. In that regard, and I think that that shaped my voice has shaped my expression, as well. And still I have you know, I'm, I'm not, you know, a foreigner to gospel but it shaped who I am and how things moved. When I was 11 years old, I got filled with the Holy Spirit. And that started a journey. The the ultimate journey that I have with the Lord, I would spend time in my closet locked in my closet, just worshiping and learning different songs, different worship songs, and writing them down in my journal, and asking the Lord questions and praying in the Spirit, and just getting to know him. And that probably lasted. Like, in that intensity, I would come home from school and go straight into the closet. It's like, we had a meeting, you know, every single day. And from there, it opened up and I began to listen to more music, different types of music, more guitar driven stuff. And I was like just learning with handles like he was teaching me and that lasted for like four years intensely. Yeah, about four years give or take, because then I had gotten into high school. And, you know, I got a little distracted and got into boys and stuff. But you know, things shifted. But that's when I began to minister get into ministry and I learn how to actually apply what I had learned in the closet, you know, to to my time leading other people in worship.

Naomi Raine  14:41  
The real the real deal nitty gritty is that when I was 18, I got pregnant and got sat down for ministry. And that was like, super tough because it was like, oh, no, I can't do the thing that I loved. Because I'm in I'm in trouble now. And I really leaned into the Lord again. And he, like God is so good because he has a way of really teaching you the lesson that you need to learn if you'll let him rather than just making you feel like you're punished. And that was it, that he was the one I was able to talk to, and really connect to through that whole time because I lost a lot of close friendships. Because I was I was the bad girls wearing the scarlet letter. And as time went on, my husband, I ended up getting married, and having more children I kept in worship, kept leading worship. But because I was sat down from my church, I was asked to direct a choir at another church. And what that did, was that brought me out of my context, my non denominational mega church context, into a Presbyterian church into an AME Church. And I started to learn how God moves in different places. And that how, like, yeah, we might have a little doctrinal thing that separates us, but that we're still really one in what we believe. And I had no context for the body at large, I only knew what I had experienced in my context. And it was there that the Lord really gave me a heart and a love for his body and the people and the parts that look different than the other parts. And from there, I would say, like, I started singing background for an r&b artist, and that tour got cancelled, like two days before it was just to go out, I went and bought a guitar, I was like the cit. I'm gonna learn how to play guitar. And I got a guitar and I started writing songs and working on my music on my guitar. And I would say like, the rest is history, wrote for me out saying that went to Nashville, sang, it met the people, and it just like, it just unfolded from there. And the only reason I tell this story like this, is because I think, for me, my life has been about the mission, right? What has the Lord called me to do? I know I have a legacy to uphold. I'm like, this is an inheritance of my parents. were given a promise and a word. And I know I'm fulfilling that. And so when I see all of even with the things that I've done wrong and stupid, and all of that, how God has continually like ordered my steps, and allowed me to get to this place where I know it has nothing to do with, really with me, you know, I'm really clear on that. I'm just following his leading and he's setting this up. So now I get to literally live out my dream and worship Jesus at the same time. That's a nice phrase, you know, that

Trevor Tyson  17:36  
is something that deserves a praise break, which I'd break this chair, if I really just jerked back and did it. You know. I love it. Yeah, come on. And I love that you brought up the scarlet letter because so many young guys and girls get so caught up in like, oh, my gosh, I lost my virginity, or I got pregnant out of wedlock. And I don't know how to move forward from this. You got like, you had to step down for ministry for a season like forcefully, how did you overcome that mental block and realize that God uses the broken hence, every, almost every person in the Bible that God use was broken to some way shape or form whether they had a ton of adultery, whether they were murdering people like all of it, like, God still use them? How did you personally overcome that scarlet letter curse that people talk about? To move into? Like, you know what, I did this, I have a beautiful child because of it. And I'm still going to continue to praise and serve God.

Naomi Raine  18:36  
I mean, that was one of the hardest things, honestly, to overcome is the shame. You know, if I'm honest, when I got pregnant, I kept hearing because I've always been a songwriter. And God has always spoken to me through songs and through little lines. And when I maybe few months, and maybe four to six months, I kept hearing him say there's a blessing and rain, there's a blessing and rain, there's a blessing of rain. And I'm like, Okay, there's a blessing and rain. So when that stuff happens, and it keeps it's repetitive, I go look it up and I'm like rain. So now I'm doing like a Bible study on rain. I'm like, Well, right. So the flood, I don't know if it's always good, Lord. You know, like, there's a blessing and rain and then I realized he wasn't talking. He wasn't just talking about actual rain. But he did tell me like, hey, when it rains, the flowers can grow. You know, and life can come from the thing that you feel like, oh, man, I can't go outside and play. But my middle name is rain and he was literally like this that you're carrying is a blessing. And I know you don't see it. I don't you know, you don't feel it right now. But I need you to trust me and recognize that this is a blessing and I'm gonna bring like beauty from your ashes. And honestly, my daughter April is literally she just turned 16 Yesterday. I don't know what to do.

Trevor Tyson  19:49  
I was so blown away. I was like, 16

Naomi Raine  19:54  
year old you just got

Trevor Tyson  19:56  
out of college is what I thought you know, I'm 22 Oh, yes, yes, that's what I thought.

Naomi Raine  20:03  
Seven and 10 cents as a lot of years. But, you know, like, She's literally a blessing to me. And I've learned so much like God has just shown me who he is how he moves, how He loves us. He showed me like, I can take bad things and make it beautiful, you know?

Trevor Tyson  20:24  
That's so good. And one other thing I wanted to touch on which I'm so glad you brought it up with your daughter, because it's so beautiful to hear those stories, because you don't get that side of it very often. You always get oh, this person did this. Here's how I overcame it. But no, here's what happened. Here's the blessing I got from it. No matter what anybody thinks about it, you gained a blessing through that. So it's so good to touch on that. And one other thing I want to touch on. Is it true that you were two years old when you started to sing and you were 25 years old when you learn how to play guitar?

Naomi Raine  20:53  
Yes. To I sang my first concert in Queens, New York at Bethel Christian Learning Center. It's it was a school church thing. Or I think it was called New, greater Bethel. That was the school. But anyway, I went there when I was two and saying, yes, Jesus loves me. And Hezekiah Walker was there and all these big gospel acts, and my mom said, I did not want to go home. She was like, no, no, me don't do want to go home. I'm like, No, I want to sing. No, I want to sing. And I went up there. I think it was after midnight, and sang my song, and went home. She said, I stayed up the whole time. I mean, I was singing since I was two. And when I told you, when I, when I got that tour canceled, I went and I was like, I'm getting a guitar. And I just started, I went on YouTube and learned like, ie, the minor chord. That was like my first chord that I learned,

Trevor Tyson  21:47  
come on. And throughout the album journey, in particular, you dive into quite a variety of topics, including mental health, which is something that I touch on a lot here at Trevor talk, seeing as it's so near and dear, close to my heart is something that I've been through. And I know millions of other people are struggling with as well. So with that being said, can you share a little bit on some of the journey that you've gone on to become the woman that you are today?

Naomi Raine  22:10  
Yeah, I mean, shame was a big thing. And we kind of talked about that, to work through that. And, like, shame is something that affects how you think, you know, it's not just what you think it's how you think about, about everything and had to go through a lot of deliverance in prayer and healing, in order to be free from the shame. But I still kind of walked around very numb, if that makes sense. I think sometimes we have we get cut, we get a scar. And that's okay. But when there's scar tissue, sometimes you need to have surgery to get that removed. So sometimes the way that you heal, you might have healed, and you no longer open, but that the way you healed wasn't always right. And so I think, for me, I kind of healed in a way to kind of keep myself very far from people so that I couldn't get hurt. And nobody could affect me. And I became very numb. And I just kind of lived life. Also, you know, I was a new mom, I was a new wife. And I was just in the in the roles like cook making peanut butter and jelly and making sure I'm cooking dinner and doing this and doing that. And just trying to be a good wife and a good mom and a good Christian and a good girl. And a good good, good, good. That was my goal, because I'd already been bad and I gotta be good. And that kind of led to a huge upheaval, a couple years ago, and I had to really address and deal with where my heart really was. And as I started to deal with those things, I had to realize that, oh, no, like I created a whole life on another personality. You don't want a person that I'm not. I'm not actually like, I'm not actually that person. And in order to because my dreams were coming true. I was getting everything I want. In order to live what God had been calling me to live, I had to be free. I had to be fully free. I had to be fully myself even. And so as that happened, and I had to address things and deal with them and face them for real. I was like slipped into a mega depression. Because I was sad about what I saw what I discovered about myself. And after that, I think the Lord allowed me to use the music to heal me, but really, it was just him saying, Yep, and I still love you. Yep, and I'm still here yet and I'm still going to use you. Yes, and you're still anointed and blessed and this and that and all the things that I thought that I was going to lose. And really it was even fellowship and communion with God. It didn't happen just because I was you know, whatever I had, you know, conjure up in my mind that was so bad or so scary. Or so immature, you know. And after that I think I'm in a good space now. I'm And I think but I know I'm in a good space now I was able to process and allow me to use this music. A lot of the music that you hear on this album is that season of letting him process me letting a being honest about things, letting some people go and welcoming some people in and and telling myself the truth, you know, according to his

Trevor Tyson  25:20  
work, that's so good. And the first song that I ever heard that had you in it was actually promises. And I remember my friend Joel sent me the song. And I was like, I usually, like I try to open all the music people send, but I don't usually get to. So I opened it up. And right when you started coming in with like, an excuse my singing, I'm just trying to let you know what part of the song, you know what I'm talking about, I don't know what he's talking about. And I just about jerked my neck off of my head, like, I don't even know if that makes sense. But I was done. Like, from the moment you came in there. And Joe did such a great job with the song but there was something about your part when you came in. And then going into the chorus, like I put my faith in Jesus, the rock on which I snapped, like I just about fell out for like, I needed that in that season. And that season of time, like and I remember listening to it, time and time and time again. And I believe it was a span of a week where I was just really down and depressed, like owning a media agency and doing the show like everything was just ramping up so quickly that I didn't really know how I was hand going to handle it mentally. And that song gave me so much peace in that season. And I just wanted to share that with you to know like, all of these little pieces like all of these little features here and there. Like all of that matters. There's not one voice and Maverick that champions over the other is equally a collective. And that leads me into asking this, it has to feel really cool with being a part of a collective of brothers and sisters that are like minded and all championing the one true God. And being on the road that much as much as you guys are, you've got those brothers and sisters out there that are helping hold you accountable, like not letting things go to your head. But it has to be stressful getting away from your family. So with having kids and a husband at home, how have you managed to keep your head on straight and not get so stressed out? Because I know you're missing some events that you would like to be there for but you know that God's in control? How have you managed all this?

Naomi Raine  27:32  
Honestly, I really believe that in this season, I have a grace to do this. And so it hasn't felt super tough, except for one week. And so what I realized is that, when I'm sick, we had a press week, because we had the kingdom book, one album coming out. And we were doing everything and our schedules were packed, packed, packed, packed, packed tight. And that was the moment that I that I missed my home the most. And I felt the weight of like, I wasn't there to see them run down the street, you know, I was feeling the weight of that the most. And a phone call wasn't going to do it, you know, and so I had to just go home and spend time at home. And honestly, they played video games and really didn't talk to me much. But it was good to to be home, it was good to reset and recalibrate. And so for me, it's making sure that I don't get too busy that I don't push myself too hard. I know my limits. So that the things that I have grace for, you know, I don't abuse the grace, if that makes sense. Um, there was something else I was gonna say, well, also, I was gonna say that I'm going to bring them out with me on tour for like the last two weeks. And so it's important and I normally wouldn't do that. But I'm making a decision to do that because I don't want to miss this time with them. And I don't, I don't need to regret it. You know what I'm saying? I think sometimes it's just making a different choice, so that you don't have to regret something that you could have done something about.

Trevor Tyson  29:01  
Yeah, and I don't think you'll regret it like they're gonna get to live that primo life get to know what the deal is out there. Like that's Alexa PenaVega called it glamping. Her and her husband are taking their kids on the road with Big Time Rush. We talked her a few weeks ago. She's like, Yeah, we're going glamping on tour. And it's like I've seen artists do it very successfully being skillet, Lacey Sturm the Big Time Rush crew like, parenting on the road is a whole different beast. So I can't wait to touch base on that later. But I do have a few songs on No, right. I have a few songs that I want to dive in on what I call track by track. And I really want to start with my second favorite on the album, which I like them all equally. But this is the second one that really stood out to me. And it's called Paper plates. And I love it because it's not your typical bop for any genre or artist. It's such a random thought that have like paper plates, like throw them away. You know, like don't get caught up and all the material things in life and you It had to be stunning, though I could go on a rabbit trail to be the first gospel artists to perform. And 20 years on the main show for the Grammys, nor the last a win a Grammy like, that was one of the things that popped in my head. Listen, the song is like, I wonder how like, that led into this and if it was written before, so with all that being said, Can you dissect paper plates for us?

Naomi Raine  30:23  
Paper plates is a song about convenience. And it's really me recognizing that I like everything quick and easy. Like, please spare me the the real, you know, because then I have to wash that stuff, and I have to care for it. And if you're not careful, they break you know, and so, also, I don't like washing the dishes after I cook dinner. And so it's like, just give me a paper plate, give me some plastic forks. And we just throw that stuff out. And it's, it had become, I had kind of built my life in a way where I was just trying to skate by with the bare minimum, you know, like, I'll cook but I don't want to clean. And you know, I'll do this, but I don't want to do that. And I realized that that was not going to be an efficient and effective way to live life if I wanted to grow and learn from from the reality of the situation. Because the reality is, even when you know, now I'm going to become an activist. Even when you throw those paper plates and plastic forks and plastic cups into the trash, they don't just disappear. And we think that sometimes like when we just put it to the side, or we throw it out that it's done, and it's over, that's not true. There are implications there that we might not be paying attention to, but they come up later on. And so it's really a song about dealing with life dealing with what you already have not buying something disposable or running to find, you know, I had, I had a friend that would hang out with like fake friends, and not her real friends. Because it was easier, like, Oh, we're just gonna go have fun, but it's like, we're gonna actually challenge you and be like, Hey, what's going on with you for real? You know, and so it replaces about that it's making the decision or really acknowledging the fact that I would rather be raggedy and, and irresponsible, then actually deal with real life and be present and be responsible and clean the daggone dishes. You

Trevor Tyson  32:25  
do not come across as raggedy number one number two, the one of the lines in the song that really touched base with me is like, I'm the kind of dude this I'm not going to drive around the parking lot. Look for a spot close enough to the store to I don't have to walk too far. It's like you spent so much more time doing that. Just go to the back of the lot walk. So and then I was like, You know what, I wonder how many recycling activists are going to reach out you should have said recycling blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yes, shut up. Y'all aren't getting the message here. And I love that song so much. So thank you.

Naomi Raine  32:58  
In New York, I live in New York City. So parking in a lot is like almost $100 Okay, for a few hours. So that was the thing. It's just like being wasteful. And like, I don't care just spend the money and not like, park on the street for maybe $7. You know, it's like, it's the it's the mindset of like, it doesn't matter. I've got money to burn and edit as I get irresponsible, because you're lazy. So I said $100 to park your car, it can cost you like 75 bucks to park your car. Brah

Trevor Tyson  33:29  
I'm an hour east of Atlanta. I'm good. I'm out in the middle of nowhere. Like, wow, that's a lot. Now, I will say pressing on which we talked about this beforehand. The lead singer for the record not ready. I wasn't ready for it. Because when I heard it, I was like, I had COVID Number one. And I just started like, I turned it all the way up even though I had a headache and I started dancing. So like it hit all the right spots. And like I was saying earlier, like the premiere came up on my YouTube because I had subscribed. And I was like, okay, like this is going to come out, I need to be ready to see this, like one day we're gonna get the interview and I want to know, like, I want to be amongst the first to watch it and which I was. And wow, like it just hit all the right marks. So I want to give you the opportunity to give us a little snippet of not ready and what the song means to you personally.

Naomi Raine  34:27  
Okay, um, you want the snippet first, I cannot weave it into the story, weave it into the story. All right, I'm gonna leave it I'm this not ready was written from that place. And I wrote it with some friends. So I didn't write it alone. But it was written from a place of when I had slipped into that deep depression. And my friend told me like, hey, like you were depressed. And I was like, No, it was it was like, yeah, like you were like, Why didn't you tell me so I will if I told you like you will be like in a much worse space. And that was like a conversation after I had really gone to the Lord and was just like, I need help. Like, I really just need you to help me. I just need no, I don't know. I don't know. I don't get it. I don't I don't have it together. I don't know if I'm gonna even do what you told me. But I just need help. I know you're literally the only answer, you know. So that's what it means. When you hear that,

Unknown Speaker  35:23  
um, no one needs to. But I don't know how to say, I'm not ready. I'm not ready to change. I want to trust in you, buddy. futsal told the churros. I'm not ready. I'm not ready to change. That's what it you know.

Trevor Tyson  35:49  
I wasn't ready for that.

Naomi Raine  35:51  
I would weave it in, you know,

Trevor Tyson  35:54  
it's so good. Wow. Okay, so I've got to follow that up. And, like from the beginning of the song going into let's just be honest, Jesus, I'm a mess. I'm a mess. Exactly. We're all a mess. And can't seem to fill this void of emptiness. My bills are paid. But I'm still stressed. I need you I need you trying to medicate and all the pain can't hush these voices inside my brain or in my brain. It just keeps going on and on to all these relatable things that people go through on a daily basis yet. This is you talking to you for us. And we're all just relating with it. And then you dive into the video which gives you a throwback what feels like a different time zone. I believe that was intentional, but I'm not positive. And when Yeah, so like, what was the process with like, Okay, I need a music video. Because Maverick has like the performance videos, but not necessarily a music video. So this was your first I lead music video? How did that feel? What was the process for that, and if you sing again, I might pass out.

Naomi Raine  36:57  
So then I must sing. Um, I think for me doing a video was super fun. Like, for me, I always saw journey as a visual album from the beginning. And so it was important for me to have visuals that help people relate. But the music changed on journey. So the music was much more like somber at first. And like very, very emo. And I had gotten together with a producer and he produced like a remix. And we were going to release the first one as the regular and like release this as a remix, which is so 90s in and of itself. But the throwback vibe was just so strong. And I loved it. Because it's almost like that dichotomy of like, my bills are paid, but I'm still stressed. So it's the song feels really good. But when you listen to the words, you're like, Oh, this is kind of also sad, you know, but I think it's, it's the reality of life. Sometimes Sometimes we are living, we're smiling, we're going out, we're having fun, but yet, we're still dealing with some real life issues. And I just thought it would be very creative and bold to release it like that, and just let it speak for itself.

Trevor Tyson  38:10  
And it does speak for itself. So you had a homerun there. And one of my other favorites, which they're all my favorites on he quit saying it. One of my other favorites on the record is safe, which made me feel safe really diving into it and helped me feel comfort and listening to this record. And it kind of serves as two sides of nurturing. For me personally, it not only showed the love of the Father, but it also showcased your heart as a mother. And do you believe being a mother has helped you mold your craft as a songwriter? And what do you think this song is? Meaning is overall for you?

Naomi Raine  38:46  
You know, Trevor, you really just be picking up the things. Yes, I literally wrote that song for one of my sons. So it's interesting that you pick that up. And it was from me, but also from the heart of the Father. So it's so interesting that you pick that up. But yeah, to me, being a mom and not just a mom to my natural children, I have like people that I am. I will say like spiritually responsible for I pray for them, and I listen to them and hold them down. That whole thing in and of itself has grown me as a person. It's grown me, even as an artist. I want to be mindful of everything that I put out. I'm very aware of some of the some of the music when you ask questions when you say, I'm not ready to change, some people will take that and run with it and be like shoo, no, let's just be raggedy, you know, and it's not. It's that's not what this is about. And so being a mom has helped me to be very mindful of what I put out there. Right because I think people are impressionable and people are looking for any answer. They're not looking for the right answers. They're just looking for anything and even people to push responsibility on for their own act. Questions. But I think it's helped me to kind of make music that I can really stand by. And I can go toe to toe with people like in the Word of God like, hey, no, this is a real thing, right. And we need to address this. And we need to handle this. And I think there's a maturity. I don't want I don't want to say maturity, I want to say, there is an authority in that, you know, when you speak from a place of nurturing and care. I think there's authority in that it speaks from a different part of the heart of God.

Trevor Tyson  40:28  
Come on. And as we're coming to a close, there's another so I know, right, but we got to honor your time you're busy and today's technically your Sabbath. So we're gonna slip it in, you know, and we'll do another one, I'm sure. But the last song I really wanted to talk about which I haven't heard it discussed in any of your other interviews. So I was really wanting to ask about the song Hold on, because I believe it's such a sweet melody, as well as the whole record. But we can't talk about the whole thing in this timeframe. But obviously, still alone is another one of those songs. And it was hard for me to nail down the songs to discuss but this one really tackles everything that is very taboo to talk about still today, which is being alone. aloneness is such a hard thing, and not a lot of people understand it quite to its full effect. Yet, when you hear of people dying by suicide, or overdosing, or getting into alcohol, pornography, whatever it may be, a lot of it is rooted from that little tiny seed of aloneness that goes on dealt with. So when it comes to still alone, what would you say to that person that's listening to it? And like I needed to hear this? I know, for a fact I'm feeling alone right now. And what would the message be from Naomi rain?

Naomi Raine  41:44  
I think the message would be that just because you're alone doesn't mean you have to be lonely. And I would tell that person to ask the Holy Spirit, don't just do introspection, or like, talk to anybody, I would tell that person if you have relationship with God, even if you don't try it today, you know, like, ask the questions. Why don't I want to be by myself? What does it mean to me because I think that we all have different reasons of being afraid of being alone. And some of it is because we don't want to deal with us. And some of it is because we feel rejected by other people. And so I think that there's there there's a trail and there are routes to whatever your thing is, right and whatever your you're dealing with, but I think that when you face it, when you face whatever that fear is, it gives you the ability to conquer it, and it can't have you anymore, right? And so that's literally still alone, I end from a place of like, okay, this is what I was so afraid of, this is what I was trying to avoid this whole time. This is what I found out that I was and now I'm okay, wait, I survived. Hello, I'm still here. You know, and so my prayers that people would hear the song and feel like somebody understands them, but then also feel like this kind of hand reaching out to pull them up out of the lie. That being alone is such a bad thing. It's not and yeah, I think it is, I think when people dive deep, I think it can be very healing for them

Trevor Tyson  43:23  
on come on. Well, journey as a whole is available on all major streaming platforms. And Naomi, it's been such a pleasure to have you on today. It's it's been so refreshing. This has been fun. And I'm sure we'll do it again in the future.

Naomi Raine  43:38  
Yes, I hope so. Was this a good 100th episode?

Trevor Tyson  43:41  
This was the best 100th episode. So thank you for being a part of it. And for everybody that's listening this far. And thank you so much for making 100 episodes happen and for all the new people that are here just for Naomi, I get it and we love you. Welcome to our family and Naomi thank you for being here today. And again, everybody the links for all of Naomi's music, social media, website, merch, everything is going to be in the description below. We love you guys so much. And if you're struggling today and need a little extra help and care, getting through your day, please remember that your life matters. God has so much purpose for your life. He has given you such such a unique spirit about you and there are resources available at heart And then at death, the number two We want you to live to see another day. Again, your wife has so much purpose and we love you so much and we'll talk to you guys next week. Bye now.

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At the age of 2, Naomi Raine sang in her first concert! And by the age of 7, she had already written her first song. Since that time, Naomi has taken the gifts and talents that God has given her and uses them to bring God glory wherever she goes.

Born in New York on April 9th to Lawrence and Marissa Felder, Naomi carried the torch passed down by her parents to spread the gospel through song. Standing on the word spoken over her parents that “their seed would bless the earth,” Naomi Raine has traveled to countless places sharing the message of Jesus Christ to thousands of people.

Whether songwriting, singing, or playing the guitar, she has always found it easiest to communicate to people through lyrics and melodies. Her desire to see the body of Christ united and empowered fuels her drive to make music that inspires others to worship God. This is evident in her first viral single, “Pour Me Out,” which gave language to a young audience desiring to live a surrendered life. Since then, Naomi has kept this message relevant through every project, including her most recent recording, “Back to Eden” - parts 1 and 2

Naomi has featured on countless projects with some of the most acclaimed artists in Christian music – and has been

featured on countless projects with some of the most acclaimed artists in Christian music such as, Todd Dulaney, J.J. Hairston, Bethel Music, Jonathan and Melissa Helser, and Israel Houghton to name a few.

One of Naomi’s joys is singing with her new found family, Maverick City Music, who has taken the world by storm over the past few years. Together, they have touched generations of people and have been widely recognized as artists who are leading the masses to the heart of God. As a part of Maverick City Music, Naomi has earned multiple awards including, Billboard Music Awards, Dove Awards, Stellar Awards, and a Grammy award. She is featured on songs such as “Story I’ll Tell,” and the award-nominated “Jireh,” and “Promises.” Naomi had the pleasure of making her film debut in “Christmas with The Chosen” with Maverick City Music.

Naomi Raine is down-to-earth; a fun-loving, wife and mom of three, Apryl, Kayden, and Savion. When she isn’t busy being a secret chef, she’s serving as a Worship Pastor at Fresh StartChristian Center in Mount Vernon, NY and nurturing the gifts in others through her indie record label, The Bridge Collective. Naomi is passionate about making space for other creatives with similar goals. Whether that be through mentorship or friendship, her commitment is to helping their vision become reality.

Above all, Naomi’s greatest desire is that God would be glorified - not just through her music, but through her everyday life.